More Wacky Email

From the same friend that sent me the last email, I received the following:

A moment of national pride took place recently in the White House when an American soldier, Staff Sgt. Salvatore Giunta, received the Medal of Honor for bravery above and beyond the call of duty in combat in Afghanistan.

Sgt. Giunta became the first living American soldier to receive the Medal of Honor since the Vietnam War. He is now one of only eighty-eight (88) living holders of the Medal of Honor…

…In contrast, there was another “first” at the ceremony involving the Commander-in-Chief, President Barack Hussein Obama, in whose conduct the nation cannot and should not take pride: As far as is known, Obama became the first President, the first Commander-in-Chief , not to salute the living recipient of the Medal of Honor after presenting the medal.

It is a tradition in the military for all military personnel, no matter how high their rank, including the Commander-in-Chief, to salute a holder of the Medal of Honor no matter how lowly his or her rank…

…And, as far as is known, it is tradition that every President who has had the honor to present the Medal of Honor to a living recipient, has shown humility, respect, and national pride in that recipient by stepping back and rendering a salute.

It was missing in action in the Obama presentation. He is apparently above all that; “like a God,” as an editor of Newsweek once wrote.

Instead of rendering the traditional salute, after fumbling as if all-thumbs in trying to affix the blue-rib boned Medal of Honor, Obama, equally awkwardly, tried to “hug” the Sergeant. Yes, a “hug” for the soldier who remained at attention with eyes front in military bearing.

But a “hug” is not a “salute,” even in the Age of Obama. While there may be some comedic value in Obama’s pathetic display, it was more emetic than comedic. I didn’t write about it at the time, so as not to distract from Sgt. Giunta’s receipt of the Medal of Honor. But days have passed, and it needs to be said…

…Then again, perhaps it is not too much to expect anyone who would be America’s president to at least respect American traditions, including honoring the Flag, and saluting those who receive the Medal of Honor.© 2010 Rees Lloyd – All Rights Reserved

For brevity, I edited out some of the irrelevance and bullshit, but left the meat of the article in. You can read the original post, which I found here. And you can watch the actual ceremony below.

(The actual presentation of the medal begins around 18:30, if you want to skip ahead.)

The point of the piece, which my friend wholeheartedly endorsed, was that Obama is ruining the country by not adhering to tradition that all of his predecessors adhered to, and this is just further evidence that he’s (ssshhhhhh) not one of us.

The problem with this is that it’s complete and utter bullshit. A pure lie, created by the mind of a man who wants to believe the lie, but a lie nonetheless.

As it turns out, as shown here, it is not a tradition that all presidents have deferred to the medal of honor recipient by saluting them upon presentation of the medal. There are two videos where both Johnson and Nixon both simply shook hands with the recipient, which one might think is entirely appropriate coming from the Commander-in-Chief to a subordinate. As noted, the President usually returns a salute, but as Commander-in-Chief, doesn’t initiate them.

But really, who cares? Even if that was some tradition, why are all these right wing pundits  making issues out of petty nonsense. As I wrote back to my friend:

Why not pick on something substantive, something with a little meat, something that we can all agree to criticize Obama about, like his foreign policy, his relationship with Congress, his policies and accomplishments, instead of this picayune, insignificant crap? I’ll bet this guy thinks he was born in Kenya too.

Seems to me that if you are compelled to create an issue, and substantiate it with no or little research or evidence, bordering on outright falsehoods, then there’s something else motivating you to do so; something that you’re afraid to give voice to explicitly, instead building up the molehill as a mountain, when it clearly isn’t, so that you can point to it as your reasons to criticize Obama.

C’mon. At least be honest. You don’t like the Black Man in the White House.

You’re a racist, Mr. Lloyd.

21 thoughts on “More Wacky Email

  1. W didn’t salute MoH winner Ed Freeman in 2007, either. This shows FDR giving a handshake, not a salute and Truman followed suit when he was President so this is just another scam pulled by the conservatives on their constituents who they know wouldn’t fact check (and probably wouldn’t know how if they wanted to).

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  3. I think there is a lot of confusion out there, among blacks, regarding their citizenship. I don’t know what all the fuss, here, is about, Obama being inferred as inferred as un-American, when most black Americans, these days, always precede their nationality with “African.” Clearly, they mustn’t be happy being American, themselves, most being born on US soil, while still claiming to be from Africa. You don’t see that attitude as being somewhat contradictory, if not downright ungrateful?

    Also, I don’t think there is an issue, here, about his color, so much as his religious stance, what with the current anti-Muslim hysteria proliferate in your country. And, it couldn’t have hurt him to familiarize himself with military custom in giving a Medal of Honor recipient his proper recognition, Obama being his commander in chief and all. Maybe those that have never served wouldn’t see any significance in this oversight, though, eh? I think that’s all that happened, it was just an oversight on Obama’s part.

    I am surprised, though, the religious angle was missed in this… given this site’s mandate and preoccupation with the ‘study’ of religion…

    😎

    • I guess Italian-Americans, Polish-Americans, Irish-Americans, and all the other hyphenated Americans’ attitudes are contradictory and ungrateful as well?

      Btw, would it have hurt you to familiarize yourself with the fact that this alleged custom is bogus, and therefore Obama did nothing wrong?

      There really is nothing religious about this story. Many hate Obama, and not for anything he’s done or hasn’t done as President, but because he is President. It’s generally seen as unseemly to justify the hatred based on his color (outside of Tea Parties, that is) so other more acceptable reasons have to be concocted. Allegedly being a Muslim works, along with allegedly not being born in the US and not saluting a MoH recipient. Of course you can be really lazy and just say it’s because he’s a socialist or fascist. Sadly asserting such shit isn’t universally unseemly in the US.

  4. “I guess Italian-Americans, Polish-Americans, Irish-Americans, and all the other hyphenated Americans’ attitudes are contradictory and ungrateful as well?”

    You said it, not me! What, just calling yourself American not politically-correct enough, Chief? We don’t want to be accused of not being stylish, now, do we?

    What’s bogus about saluting a vet, pray tell? Especially one that’s gone the extra distance, as this award is supposed to indicate?

    “It’s generally seen as unseemly to justify the hatred based on his color…”

    All I’m saying that his tint has nothing to do with anything, it’s his faith/politics, as was the inference in John’s post, that’s come under scrutiny. I guess you didn’t read that far. If I’m supposed to be psychic and read something into something that seems pretty straightforward in it’s text, well, I’m not into the paranormal. Sorry.

    And, in telling you what you’re dying to hear, yes, I believe anyone of any importance in the power structure is a fascist. If you don’t play by the rules, you don’t play, simple as that.

    It’s pretty clear the Clinton’s are running your country, now, anyway.

    Last I checked, they were white. Welsh-American, maybe?

    • What’s bogus about saluting a vet, pray tell? Especially one that’s gone the extra distance, as this award is supposed to indicate?

      There’s nothing bogus about saluting a well-deserved veteran. What’s bogus is concocting the story that it was the President’s traditional duty, one no other President failed to do, to salute the vet, when in fact it wasn’t. Then criticize him for not doing so.

      well, I’m not into the paranormal.

      There goes that irony meter again.

  5. Sorry to have to enlighten you, again, John, but the paranormal has nothing to do with Christianity. (Duh!) Christianity actually condemns the practice of consulting mediums and those with “familiar spirits.”

    And, it matters not to me what your president does in the presence of a vet, however, seeing as how he seems more than willing to send them off to die in rich men’s wars, I figure the least he can do is give one of them a salute, now and then, if for no other reason than to say: “Thanks, son, for being willing cannon fodder in our pursuit of the perfect oligarchy.”

  6. but the paranormal has nothing to do with Christianity.

    If you’ve seen one spirit, you’ve seen ’em all.

  7. si,

    i agreed with you completely right up to your last two sentences. that’s some weak sauce right there. uh-oh. somebody criticized obama (fairly or not) – they must be a racist. don’t fall into the easy out of brainless race pimping that’s thrown around just to intentionally deter people from criticism (again, fair or not) for fear of being labeled a racist. you did just fine at showing the weakness of that guy’s position without that last bit thrown in. you’re a pretty rational and reasonable guy, si (atheism aside), but i think you’re the one who should be honest here. playing the race card without any valid basis for doing so is just flat out amateur hour.

    • playing the race card without any valid basis for doing so is just flat out amateur hour.

      Thanks, Rudy. Always appreciate your input.

      It’s only a theory. You got a better explanation for the lies?

  8. si –

    what makes you believe he was lying? couldn’t he have just been mistaken? just stating something that is untrue doesn’t qualify it as a lie. a lie would have to be a statement that you know is untrue at the time that you make it and its impossible to know if that’s the case here so i give the benefit of the doubt. liar or not though, its quite a ridiculous stretch to accuse the man of racism on the basis of one piece of criticism. i don’t think you really believe it, though. maybe that it was just a little undue twisting of the blade on your part?

    btw – who’s rudy?

    • what makes you believe he was lying? couldn’t he have just been mistaken?

      When you publish something like that, you damned well better not be “mistaken”. So, it’s the same thing as lying. It was easily confirmed. I did it, so did Philly. No, it was a lie. He knows what he did.

      btw – who’s rudy?

      Did I say Rudy? My bad. I meant Chris.

      • ok – let’s say he’s a liar. how exactly does that translate into him being a racist also? can you point out for me the statement he made that clearly shows a tendency towards racism? like i said, i don’t believe that you really believe that. i think it was just a barb designed to sting.

        don’t know a chris either. its jason.

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