The President Should Be An Atheist

With all this talk about whether President Obama is a Muslim or a Christian, as he claims, with Glenn Feckless making an issue of it despite his own Christian ambiguity, with 18% of the electorate believing he’s a Muslim, and with 60% of seemingly lobotomized Republicans using it as a political issue to retake Congress, it seems to me that the Founding Fathers didn’t go far enough defining the required qualifications for the job of President.

Ours is a secular government, created to perform secular functions for the citizens of the United States. Religion is to play no part in the governance of the country, and the personal superstitions beliefs of those citizens are inviolate, not to be infringed upon by the government in any way, shape or form. Furthermore, no religious test can be required of any officer of the United States, including, but especially, the President. Religion is supposed to be a subject non grata in the White House, and indeed, on Capitol Hill.

We seem to spend an inordinate amount of time and energy worrying about, discussing, analyzing, questioning and debating the President’s religion, both during the campaign, and now even after he’s elected, as if it was singularly important, the most important aspect of his qualifications to do his job, when in fact it’s relatively meaningless. Given the fact that his religion is to not only play a small part, but is supposed to play no part at all, in the functions of his job, doesn’t it make more sense that as a qualification for the presidency, he should be religiously neutral?

In order to be religiously neutral, he could not be a member of any cult religion, lest he be accused of favoring the dogma and theology of that religion, to the exclusion of all others, in the execution of his duties.  Wouldn’t it make more sense that he be able to exclude the dogma and theology of all religions? So the only rational religious stance he could possibly take, and still remain neutral, would be an atheistic one. He should be able to profess, honestly, allegiance to no god(s). Only then could he be trusted to fairly and equitably enforce the First Amendment.

One of the advantages of an atheist President is that we wouldn’t, as a nation, have to be confronted with this national distraction concerning  exactly what religion he belongs to. There would be no doubt. He’d be neither Muslim, Christian, Wiccan, Satanist, or Gideonist, nor the member of any other weird, offbeat cult he failed to tell us about, but that he joined in a moment of weakness during a fraternity hazing while in college. There would be no question that he favored the building of the mosque in New York on strict First Amendment grounds, and not because his imam told him to do so.

Nathan Diament, Director of Public Policy at the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, recently said:

A president’s religion matters insofar as it informs his policy choices.

To me, that is a significant cause for concern. A president’s religion should never have any effect whatsoever on his policy choices, so if we had a President who was an atheist, that would be one layer of oversight the nation would not have to spend time on. Is he smart? Is he receiving accurate intelligence? Are his advisers competent? Did he get any nookie last night? These are all perfectly sound questions to ask when analyzing the day-to-day presidential policy decision making. Getting rid of the religious question makes the second-guessing that much less complicated.

Logically, then, it makes sense that in a secular country like the United States, one qualification for President that should be mandated should be that he have no religion whatsoever, no belief in god(s), no theology, and no one other than “We the People” to answer to.

29 thoughts on “The President Should Be An Atheist

  1. We might have a secular government but our
    country is religious, or ,”spiritual”. Obama is
    wise to atleast fake faith. I would expect a
    politician to consider the constituency.

    I hope for a secular technocrat someday. We
    can use rational thinking to promote American
    empire.

  2. “Religion is to play no part in the governance of the country…”

    I agree, JP, no fucking religion should be allowed in secular governance. So… let’s get rid of that bullshit humanist crap they’re force-feeding kids in school, like where we all came from swamp slop, our cousins are apes, and the Earth is zillions of years old and the dinosaurs died out because they had brains the size of a modern infidel’s.

    As far as Obama’s religion goes, don’t worry, his bosses won’t allow him to force-feed Christianity down your throat. They’re all pagan priests of the New World Order, directed by Satan. That’s Biblical, btw, because, that’s what it’s always been about; Satan trying to usurp Christ for the rulership of the world. It’s never been about anything else, so forget about your ridiculous partisan politics, your imaginary Muslim threat, it’s all a smokescreen to help divide the people and cause derision and conflict among the masses.

    You live in Modern Babylon, John. Just like in olden days, man seeks to thrust his penile obelisks skyward and build his Babel towers, declaring himself as God. Eventually, Satan will make his grand appearance impersonating the Saviour, and will make a pretense of global reform through pseudo-Christian principles. They, like the national humanist religion in force, today, will, of course, be absolute horseshit with totalitarianism being the hidden agenda. (Rev. 13:13-17)

    Is any of this gettin’ through to ya, son, or am I just hearing my head roar?

      • “Gideon needs to suck on his Jesus pacifier.”

        Hi, QF! Always good to hear from an authority on sucking. The red light district closed, t’night, son?
        ;-)

    • A perfect representation of Christ. Just fucking lovely. Religion serves but one purpose, and that is the acquisition and maintenance of great wealth and political power. Remove the money and the politics from any religion, and you have no religion left.

      • “The Muslim Liberation Theologists believe they are the rebel force and that America is the Death Star.”

        They aren’t the only ones. More than a few fundamentalist churches see America as the prominent persecuting political power mentioned in Revelation 13. It begins with the papal power establishing itself and then falling, giving rise to a new but similarly sinister political power… a beast “out of the earth” or out of obscurity. Right about the time that Napoleon’s general, Berthier, captured Pius VI and broke the back of the papacy, the fledgling United States was just coming into being. This goes hand-in-hand with Rev. 13:12.

        After all, what other country is so prominent in invading and conquering other countries, these days, hmm? In the end times, The United States will be the major persecuting power in accordance with Revelation 13′s account, with Rome’s blessings.

  3. Gideon “I agree, JP, no fucking religion should be allowed in secular governance. So… let’s get rid of that bullshit humanist crap they’re force-feeding kids in school, like where we all came from swamp slop…”
    Except that we did. You might not like our messy evolutionary past, but it’s written in our genes.
    “…our cousins are apes…”
    Clarence, is that you?
    “…and the Earth is zillions of years old…”
    Holy crap! I knew you were ignorant, but you’re a YEC? In this century? That’s beyond ignorant.
    “…and the dinosaurs died out because they had brains the size of a modern infidel’s.”
    No. They died out because Noah’s kids ate them all. Duh.

    Quantum Flux “Muslim Liberation Theology is one of the craziest cults out there though.”
    I took Beck’s “Liberation Theology (under Rev Wright)” as Christian Liberation Theology, or is there some of the story I’m missing? (Granted, they’re both rightwing dogwhistles, “Muslim” = “scary” & “liberation theology” = SOCIALISM!!!)

    • “Except that we did.” (Come from swamp slop)

      Yeah, right, well, you keep on believing that, Modus. You’re a good little dupe. And, just because there is a genetic SIMILARITY between us and other life forms, doesn’t necessarily mean that we are a descendant or branch off of them. After all, a dog has a head and a tongue. So do we. Does that make us kissing cousins, Modus?

      And, what about those dinosaurs… you know, the ones encased in solid rock? Zillion year-old rock containing 65 million year-old dinos? Hmmm… which is it? Oh, and most fossils are contained within sedimentary rock… you know… the kind you get from marine-type environments and FLOOD action? Seems that most of the surface of the Earth is sedimentary in nature, too. Maybe the Bible’s telling the truth that infidels just won’t accept?

      And, what have you got against Muslims, boy? You one of those racists we hear about? You drinkin’ the Bush Kool Aid? If box-cutters are the weapon of choice for terrorists, how come they aren’t registering them or banning them?

      Right this way, for the New World Order, son!
      :lol:

    • “I took Beck’s “Liberation Theology (under Rev Wright)” as Christian Liberation Theology… yada, yada, bla, bla… or is there some of the story I’m… yada, bla, bla, yada… “Muslim” = “scary” & “liberation theology” = SOCIALISM!!!)”

      Modus, your hatred for Muslims is just another example of the success of the programming that goes with being just another ignorant and unenlightened member of that burgeoning collective of New World Order citizenry/sheep being fattened for the slaughter known as the American publick. (No misspelling)

      Here… let one of your own infidel gurus spell it out for you.

      • Gideon “And, just because there is a genetic SIMILARITY between us and other life forms, doesn’t necessarily mean that we are a descendant or branch off of them. After all, a dog has a head and a tongue. So do we. Does that make us kissing cousins, Modus?”
        Oh, you. Have you read “Your Inner Fish” yet?

        “Zillion year-old rock containing 65 million year-old dinos?”
        Creationist tactic #71 (Focus on the outliers, mismeasurements and frauds)

        “Oh, and most fossils are contained within sedimentary rock…”
        Frankly, I’d be quite surprised to find them in igneous rock.

        “you know… the kind you get from marine-type environments and FLOOD action?”
        Yes. The conditions most conducive to fossilization are those that both bury the creature quickly and prevent others from eating it.

        “Maybe the Bible’s telling the truth that infidels just won’t accept?”
        The Truth of a single global flood? The very same flood that has flowering plants both outrunning the rising waters and non-flowering plants while, simultaneously, growing?

        “Modus, your hatred for Muslims…”
        My what for who now? Perhaps you should try reading comments before commenting on them.

        “….is just another example of the success of the programming that goes with being just another ignorant and unenlightened member of that burgeoning collective of New World Order citizenry/sheep being fattened for the slaughter known as the American publick. (No misspelling)”
        When you say “ignorant and unenlightened”, do your ears burn?

        Here… let one of your own infidel gurus spell it out for you.

  4. “It’s always amusing to see a religious ignoramus mistake hard won scientific information for a religious belief.”

    “Hard-won scientific information” most of which was discovered by accident, all of which is misinterpreted, and it’s always amusing to see a two-faced queer reveal his trollish self wherever he surfaces.

    Modus, the only “inner fish” related to me is the salmon I had for lunch. I don’t recall seeing it in my family tree, nor any monkeys, either. A ridiculous title by a ridiculous man masquerading as a scientist.

    QF, anyone whose life revolved around whores and video games and cockamamie theories on Quantum Physics would naturally include dope-smoking in his repertoire.

  5. In perfect parrallel with the post, people like Gideon remind me that we are one “Book o’ Revelations” believer away from the annihilation of humanity. Any adherent to an apocalyptic religion is a danger to himself and others and should never to be given access to nuclear weapons.

  6. Obviously you guys Gideon is a huge super-expert. He did years of studying and he’s way smarter than any scientist ever. He knows better than scientists because he has a magical super friend called Ultra Space Jebus. This one time he even went back in time to ask Ultra Space Jebus if there was a flood and Ultra Space Jebus just laughed and punted him back to the future with his Big Toe of POWER. So that is why all the scientists are wrong and Gideon and Ultra Space Jebus are right.

  7. Hi again Gideon:

    “Hard-won scientific information” most of which was discovered by accident, all of which is misinterpreted’

    Do you say the scientific conclusions you disagree with are misinterpretions because they reache conclusions you believe to be incompatible with your reading of the bible, or do you have a substantive elucidation of how all of science is “misinterpreted”? If the former, well you’re entitled to put belief before science if it pleases you, but it’s not very convincing to those who don’t share your particular biblically based belief system. If the latter, I have to say that sounds like a pretty ambitious claim and would require a lot of evidence to support it.

  8. “Obviously you guys Gideon is a huge super-expert. He did years of studying and he’s way smarter than any scientist ever.”

    You know, TOG, the only time that phrase is ever used is by some frustrated infidel that can’t accept that there might be another way of looking at an issue than his or hers.

    I don’t claim to be smarter than any scientist, I just happen to know that most of the dogma preached by scientists is flawed. I know this by the testimony of many of those scientist’s colleagues, themselves scientists, now Christians. Now, are you saying that you, TOG, are “way smarter” than they? Maybe it’s just a case of one embittered infidel with a hate on for God that prefers the testimony of those that share his attitude, more so than the testimony of those that don’t?

    “Any adherent to an apocalyptic religion is a danger to himself and others and should never to be given access to nuclear weapons.”

    Well, then, many of your humanist scientists that preach the possibility of a global cataclysm, whether by cosmic conflagration or human intervention (such as global warming, nuclear war, etc.) ought not to be brandishing atomic weapons, either.

    Trouble is… they are!
    :roll:

    • I am not an infidel I’ll have you know, I pray to Mega-Thor and he protects me from the likes your Ultra Space Jebus, AKA Giga-Satan. Also I do not think dogma means what you think it means. But I am not surprised because your mind is being warped by Giga-Satan.

      FrEE yOUr MiND!!!!111!111eleventy!

  9. I have to admit that a lot of these chaps with their fancy scientific religion are just plain wrong. Just look at that duffer Thomas Edison with his edisonianism. You know they are allowed to teach this crap in schools now?

    http://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2010/08/30/the-scientific-case-against-edisons-electric-light/

    And don’t get me started on that faggot Alan Turing and his land notion about machines that could solve computational problems faster than a trained clerk can add up the company payroll. Whatever became of that dumb idea?

    • I’ve seen the light (pun intended). Those damn scientists just don’t know what they are talking about. I swear they make it up as they go along.

  10. At this point the usual creationist dodge is to say that Edison was an inventor or an engineer, and Turing was a mathematician, thus absolving either of conniving with those evil lying scientists.

    Of course Edison was still an atheist and Turing was still gay…

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